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arra1213 • 11 months ago

lottecia is getting hotter maybe cuz of her bangs getting longer lol

Anime & Rutabagas • 11 months ago

Azalea is back lol

arra1213 • 11 months ago

she's the best part of the show
its boring if she's not around
not gonna watch this just to see claiomh or majic lol

james trenton • 11 months ago

sad but inevitable

Violetta Bertini • 11 months ago

I really hope Winona just feigned her death; Orphen being a total ass and forgetting he also has some healing spells in his repertoire would be rather annoying as an alternative...

Porthya • 10 months ago

He didn't forget, Damian explained why sorcerers(including White Sorcerers, who excel at healing) might end up choosing what and when they use certain spells, they cost a lot of mana. Unless it turns out that Orphen did spare plenty of his mana to try and heal her, he's callously doing the same thing as Damian, saving up his strength for more important( to him) stuff down the road. He already admitted that, while he doesn't specifically hate Winona, she's a pawn in his own eyes as well, a tenuous ally at best, as opposed to his companions, sisters, or Irgitte who earned some level of compassion from him to at least try and fail to save her, for being naive enough to have been dragged into the conflict between the 13 Apostles, the Sanctuary and these guys' Imminent Domain.
The noose is tightening, especially with the hold Almagest has on him by manipulating his friends and Orphen's own knowledge of this conflict and motivations, so it's a bit understandable, even if not right, that Orphen is choosing who and what he puts some effort into saving/protecting.

Violetta Bertini • 10 months ago

But Orphen was never the 100% pragmatic and callous planner - more like the kind of person who tries to save as many people as possible, so letting Winona die seems out of character at best.

Furthermore, in the past healing magic did not seem to be overwhelmingly draining.

Porthya • 10 months ago

No, after the rather open conflict between himself, his interests and Winona and her loyalty to this guy who one way or another brainwashed two of his loved ones and is shamelessly using them, he has every reason to be pragmatic and callous about Winona. She's a confirmed idolising pawn of Almagest's who would turn on him and his friends as soon as Almagest requires it. She's one more Damocles' Sword above their heads. And he does need to be careful with any spare spell since he, Claiomh and Majic are caught between at least 2 other players/groups of players with lots of unknowns at work.
Besides, the previous attempt with Irgitte proved to him it was a wasted effort. Does he feel pity for Winona? Of course he does. Should he waste his own magic, whether pointlessly or successfully, on someone confirmed to be 9 times out of 10 his enemy? He'd be out of character and a complete idiot to.
He's an orphan who was raised to be a professional assassin, he's preserved most of his humanity by idolising Azalie(his foster elder sister and mother figure), caring deeply for his fellow students(whom he still left behind to try and save Azalie), idolising and holding massive respect for Childman and Leticia, and out of these original 3 targets of his affection, the only one he can clearly do something for or hasn't betrayed his trust is Tish, who's at this point fighting for her life somewhere out there by herself and supporting him. He clearly takes a lot of time and patience from others to make it into his roster of important people, and right now there are 3 of them for whom he naturally worries more. On top of his own survival.

Violetta Bertini • 10 months ago

Orphen has spared a bunch of way more dangerous opponents, no reason to let Winona kick the bucket right now.

Damocles' sword? She might at best beat Majic if she fought him alone and under good conditions, but I doubt she can do much more, having lost the element of surprise.

Igritte was basically already dead; Winona just fatally injured in a way that she had several hours left - not exactly the same seriousness. Also, I would not say Orphen was ever close "idolising" or "holding massive respect" for Tish, but I guess that is somehow subjective.

LegoOnTheGroundYouMissed • 11 months ago

Those two little rascals man always up to something even in the video game they were like this xD

Daemon Redfox • 11 months ago

oh no winona dies......so much sadness.......as if

Finally orphen kicked that old man, took him a lot, i hate damian XD

Violetta Bertini • 11 months ago

I still hope she was not really dead: she lasted longer than expected; and Orphen had healing spells.

Hendri Saputro • 11 months ago

I hate Damian!!!!

Yasir Amin • 11 months ago

Rip old man

kanra • 11 months ago

damn winona died she was so fire.................. at least best girl azalie is finally back what an entrance!

Violetta Bertini • 11 months ago

Trish is good too, but again next to Claiomh everybody (who is not a dwarf) would shine.

kanra • 11 months ago

LMAO FOREAL

Porthya • 10 months ago

I prefer Claiomh, who's making normal teenage mistakes, and is currently psychologically, not magically, manipulated over her grief for killing someone, to a megalomaniac psychopath who couldn't take a rejection from her mentor and went off the deep end out of rage, even when the guy did his utmost to protect her life. And her siblings might still love her, but that doesn't erase all her casual murders as the Bloody August, before Childman did the switch. To me she's as nefarious as Damian or Almagest, and it's only her ties to her family that still push for some level of redemption from her.
And Trish is an actual adult, around her mid twenties. She had the time to mature pre-story and off page, which defaults her as one of the most likable and easy to empathise with characters in this story.
It's more often Orphen and Azalie's deep moral grayness(Azalie's is much darker, though) that irks me, or Orphen's shody choice of words when expressing his concern(like last episode with his friends) that leads to annoying circumstances. Let's not forget that Orphen ended up tangled up with the dwarves/trolls and Claiomh because of his own foolishness in trusting those small idiotic creatures, while fully aware of their idiosyncrasies(or rather Volcan's).
Also, Winona and Claiomh have very similar philosophies, they're aware of their limited access to power but still willing to do everything they can to reach their goals. The difference is in the fact that Winona got military training beforehand, but it still can't take her to the anywhere near the level a sorcerer can go. Majic is 15 or 16 at best, now, and has a teacher much too young to properly explain that their similarities and differences shouldn't make or break their mentor-student dynamic, or be allowed to negatively influence Majic's opinion of self. Orphen hardly acts like a teacher to him, more like a big brother sharing pointers and leaving Majic to his own devices afterwards. I'm not surprised that someone like Almagest can persuade them to follow him with his much more( apparently) involved atttidue.

Not telling you to not like morally gray characters, or anti-heroes, there are plenty of stories where I like them myself, just saying that Majic, Claiomh, Azalie and Orphen are all still very immature people and each has their own upsetting traits, and what I find more annoying is that Orphen and Azalie still have years of life experience and knowledge of the world and its twistedness(over the younger blondies) they're actively missusing/abusing, but get less slack for their actions from the audience. *shrug*

Violetta Bertini • 10 months ago

I think it is stated that as Bloody August she was not able to reason properly, being in a haze and having monster senses/urges.

I don't think Orphen has much moral greyness, often acting as a stand up guy without much ambiguity. Or has he?

Winona can sacrifice, get shit done and compromise; I fail to imagine Claiom doing any of that.

Orphen is proving to be actually a rather good mentor for Majic, not spoon feeding him and making him risk and fail (to a degree); Almagest was presented as an ideal leader with insane charisma, so he would have persuaded people like them and more.

Porthya • 10 months ago

Bloody August is a chrystalisation of Azalie's own darkness and the Chaotic mess she is on the inside leading to her being the Chaos' Witch. I'm merely treating her killing of anyone apparently in her way, as BA, as an extension of what she manifested even after the switch, a ridiculous paranoia that Childman would want her dead, and a deep callousness re what others' lives amounted to vis-a-vis her own plans...when the worst Childman actively did to her previous to that was to reject her romantic advances and try to stop her from missusing the Sword of Baltanders.
And, ever since, she hasn't shown much regret towards how she hurt others, only towards what that ended up costing her, as seen even in her latest exchange with Heartia and how she took advantage of his own affection for their extended family at the ToF to drag him into this mess; even Trish is mainly working with her out of compromise rather than appreciation for Azalie's "evolution", to my own surprise.
There is callousness in Orphen choosing his priorities, playing favourites, as I've said before, all within his perceived limitations. If he turns out to be more cunning than we've seen of him already, and refusing in OOCness to help(which is shown in other episodes to not be the case, he refuses and explains why, but only to those who matter to him) and while possessing the resources to both help and prevent said help to be turned against him, then I'll concede, though that will also mean we haven't properly read what means IC for him. But it's not his style to force people to think or believe what they don't wish to. If anything, he even takes too long to explain his pov where it matters, as it so happened during his minor falling out with Majic. He takes 6 months to give him the essential talk in setting up expectations, and comparisons, while Isabella refused to give even one lesson or piece of advice before explaining where she and Majic stand as sorcerers. I'd say Isabella was more mature and fairer about that.
As a matter of fact, Winona's unquestioning loyalty to Almagest and her blind belief in what he says, to the bitter end, shows her as the most unwilling to compromise( what's worse is that she, on her last leg, turns out to not have had even her own ideals or morals, choosing to function as Almagest's brawny extension, just that), but, then again, we might have different takes on what compromise would mean in this context. Maybe they are indeed different, as Winona went as far as to compromise her whole self. Claiomh, instead, triggered the development of an individual personality in the dragon pup she adopted. And, mild light novel spoiler which I found in the free to access prologue to volume 20(the one they're animating as of the reunion with Leki and their starting to travel towards the sanctuary with him), and a point which they didn't bother to add in the anime: Orphen notes that, even as Claiomh became Leki's familiar, she isn't subservient to him, they are partners and Claiomh preserves her will and persona, instead of having it assimilated by the deep dragon. Instead, Leki develops his as an offshoot of hers. His decisions are in tune with hers, neither dominating the other. Yes, I suppose in this she doesn't compromise, nor when it comes to her compassion, which might go under people's radars courtesy of her slower adaptability to a life on the road and her tendency to bicker with both Orphen and Majic, the latter still being more of a sibling in her eyes than she can see of her real older sister...the actual spoiled ojou or the family.
So, I guess she and Winona aren't alike, in hindsight, but only if we debate which nuances of compromise we want to analyse in them.

Orphen doesn't need to spoon feed anyone, that's galaxies away from the role of a mentor/teacher, he simply needs to be clear about the objectives of their dynamic and the realities of their roles, something he took 6 months to realise he needed to clarify. And skipping the 1.01 of your subject can be very disconcerting and destabilising to the "pupil"/"disciple", in any given study subject, much more one you have to study mostly by practice and on the go.
He gave a better 1.01 to Lottecia on literal martial arts.

Violetta Bertini • 10 months ago

I think Azalea showed regret and consternation, but she also knows that she can't undue what she did and now she is trying to remedy major issues; Haertia seemed more interested in helping Orphen (and meeting Corgon) than willing to have anything to do with her, though. I am not sure Isabella did much better, being much weaker than Orphen and thus not too far from Majic (despite what he might realised).

Winona started to have doubts in her cause, just before dying. I would not expect her to reject her whole Weltanschauung just because Orphen told her so once or twice; and she definitely compromised more, getting her hands dirty and making sacrifices.

I never read that part of the source material: is it explicitly stated that Reki based his personality on Claiomh? Since I really don't see many similarities.

And I think you meant "101", but not sure he gave much to Lottecia, although she was in a direr situation.

james trenton • 11 months ago

you sick demented freak

Evil Santa • 11 months ago

it dont bite

Hendri Saputro • 11 months ago

Thanks God im watching each 2 ep at Once.. Cant Handle the cliffhanger with absurb storytelling

Azalie is here? What? Why?

The Leader is Ghost? No ordinary Ghost?

Jack frisbee? LOL funny name.. Who is he? And Damian is annoying AF

The subplot berween uys and lottecia is.. I dont care anymore.. She can manipulate people around her to protect her? JUST LIKE EIDA (if anymore read Boruto) PASSIVE SKILL..?!

So many sub plot throwing here and there I dont even care anymore...

Sh111t.. See ya next 2 eps. 7-8